Brothers???
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Haā¦interesting, who knows? Funny Iāve always thought mine might be Royston.
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This is an interesting video on Number 8 turquoise.
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Same parents. Looks like they grew up together. (without my so called sense of humor= looks like they came from the same mine.)
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Thanks @Ziacat, his videos are so well done. I need to read the No.8 write up in Turquoise in America (but is so quick and easy to watch videos, isnāt itš). Now Im going to refer to the light matrix material as āred matrix No.8ā.
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Yep, itās that unusual dark teal green mixed with the light blueā¦and the sharp transition between the 2 colors.
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The Number 8 is beautiful, but TBH, itās not one of my favorite types of turquoise (donāt hate on me for this 
). For some reason Iām not a big fan of the light turquoise with the brownish/reddish matrix, although I did like some of the darker stones in the video much better. I have seen some of the more recent stabilized stuff, and I really donāt like it very well at all.
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Even the experts agree with you. 
From the book, Southwestern Indians, by Tom Bahti and Mark Bahtiā¦
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@Ziacat, I also am not a big fan of the pale blue turquoise (dry creek, etc). I do like the darker blue No. 8 with darker matrix. As I recall the first time I saw No. 8 it had the very dark webbing (guess Iām really oldš). Later on I was disappointed to see the lighter color turquoise with the tan (oops, red), matrix. I remember buying some cabs at the Turquoise Museum and being frustrated that all they had for sale was the lighter stuff!
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Last year an artist at the Eiteljorg Art Market had some beautiful rings (I loved the silver work), with stabilized number 8. It was kind of weird looking - light blue with thick and almost chocolatey matrix; to me it just didnāt look right. The stones were what kept me from buying one of his rings.
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I agree with just about everything you said. You forgot to mention if Joe Dan charged you for this identification not. Joe Dan usually wont identify anything without payment, because it makes him liable for the information he gives. Iām assuming thats why he would not identify the other stones you had. This is one of many things that makes Joe Dan different than others who offer an opinionā¦ he has to be correct.
Well, this is an interesting topic. The article is very brief and basically just say that thereās a grading system that was introduced and itās going through peer review. That isnt a lot of information I was able to poke around the internet and find the original proposal (both the document and video of the presentation). Seems to me that this is one hell of a mountain to climb, but they seem to be going about it in a better scientific way than anyone else.
I think the stones might be the easier part to this, everyoneās opinions and teaditions and ways of thinking is the hard partā¦ something about old dogs and new tricks. It will be very interesting to see how the peer review plays out and if they can prove the concept. It will be more interesting to see if anyone cares when its all said and done.
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I believe I may have posted this before. This 12 cab bracelet is one of my favorites for several reasons. 1. It is big enough to fit me. 2. Its a grate example of colors of turquoise. 3. Itās a great example of why itās so difficult to tell which mine stones are from. All 12 are from the same mine. The name of the mine you ask? none other than Bisbee!!!
and the yet to be identified hallmarkā¦
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I agree that identifying turquoise visually is fraught with error. But, if asked, Iād bet money your bracelet is not Bisbeeš¬. Can you tell us what information you have that certifies all the cabs are Bisbee?
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#1 I was surprised when Joe Dan told me this!
#2 Seeing a rough of Bisbee that had most of the colors on it!
Iāll try and find the picture I took of the rough.
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Thanks @TryingToLearn! Iād love to see that pictureš
Still looking. Maybe Iāll have better luck when I get the new computer up & running and can recover my data 