Which RLB is it?

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This is the picture from the mark and if you guys can please tell me about a fair market price for it? I saw one on online for 2300 but I’m not sure if that’s a fair price

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My personal opinion is that it’s too expensive. Check online and see what else you can find by them and see what the asking prices are. Then check eBay and see what the sold prices are. Are you buying from a gallery or just online?

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From what I’m seeing, ASKING prices Robert & Bernice Leekya bracelets are all over from $750 to $3300. For the size you show, $750 to $950 seems to be the average asking price. Worth it? Only you can answer that. Depends upon how badly you have to have it. Good luck. I would first try to see what they have actually sold for first. That would be the true price.

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I can’t find any other piece like this except the one I saw on eBay for 2300 thousand. I’m really tempted, but not sure if it’s real, because I’ve read that there are so many pieces that had been replicated with imported pieces that sell as real because they even fake the stamp.

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That’s a lot of $ for something that you’re not sure about. Seems high to me. Do they have any kind of return policy? I would never spend that if I wasn’t 100% sure. @Jason do you have any thoughts about this piece and the price?

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Impossible to absolutely authenticate without a solid paper trail or provenance, but this has all the characteristics of original Leekya work, and none of the characteristics one would usually pick up from offshore work. My impression is you likely have an authentic piece here.

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$2300 is, let’s say, exceedingly optimistic–in that nobody would pay that, or has ever paid that much. At auction a bracelet like this has sold for in the 200-$300s. Liveauctioneers.com requires signing up (free) to see sold listings, but as examples (liveauctioneers and ebay 2 days ago):

Obviously, size and weight and perceived quality, plus just personal interest, factor into pricing. Can it go higher? Sure, but with a limit.

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A great example of how radically inexpensive even really well made Native American Jewelry currently is compared to current market prices of even the raw materials and labor used in hand fabricating these items. $270 would be well below materials and labor costs to make anything close to the quality of this bracelet. All things being equal, if this were any other category fair retail value for a handmade piece like this would be well justified at $2,300, but the reality is, as @chicfarmer has pointed out, these items are often still selling at ā€œfire saleā€ prices because internet resale vendors often don’t have a clue as to what they actually have.

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Here is one that sold on eBay yesterday

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I just watched a video where Reggie Mitchell was selling his jewelry, and his son stated that some stones they bought the previous year had doubled in price (and the video is a couple years old). I know that I pay more at the art market, but I love actually purchasing from the artist for the price they feel is fair. I also don’t mind paying more (even though that means I can buy less) at some of the good stores out west, because coming from a family that had a small business, I like helping actual physical businesses. But if I bought something online from some random eBay/Etsy seller I would have NO qualms looking for the cheaper price. So I wouldn’t pay $2300 for this cuff.

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Thank you very much!!

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@RobertD I just picked up a set of watch tips that look really close to yours. I got mine in monument valley , Az.

I’m curious to know if the original poster paid the $2,300 for the bracelet. I think that seems high for an older piece; maybe I’m used to eBay prices, but that seems like a lot more than what would be available online. Of course Gallery prices will be higher and they will also come with a better guarantee as to what it is, though. I guess you take a gamble buying on ebay.

Although I can agree with @Ziacat that buying from the artist and paying the fair price is the right thing to do, I do look on eBay and find some bargains ( because I’m on the east coast and don’t have a whole lot of stock over here!), but I’ve also made some mistakes there. People don’t know what they have in hand and it may be a buyer’s paradise; or maybe a seller’s paradise! One just never knows until they get the item and can look at it in person. I recently had to employ eBay’s buyer guarantee….I bought a cuff from someone who thought that they had the authentic item, but when I got it, it just seemed a little light and I took it to a gemologist, who declared it block turquoise. The man did not want to take it back because he said that if my gemologist said that block turquoise had even a small percentage of turquoise in it, then it was real and his description stood. He even told me that he could have sold it to a dozen other people who would not have had the knowledge that I did to know that it was not real, which did not really help his case . Thankfully, eBay ruled in my favor and the guy had to take it back. Anyway, I share this to say that there is some danger in buying from people who don’t know what they have. Especially if you don’t know a lot about turquoise, I would definitely take my lessons from a reputable store.

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I didn’t mean to imply that buying online is ā€œwrong,ā€ I just meant that it’s not my preference. I would really be too paranoid now to buy without knowing 100% that what I’m getting is accurate. I just meant that if I was going to buy something online from eBay or Etsy I would have no qualms about paying less than it’s actually worth, but I want to pay an artist (and reputable stores) a fair amount.

I’m glad you got your money back; what a pain.

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That guy sounds like a real shyster; I’m not sure I believe he really thought he had an authentic item. If he really could have ā€œsold it to a dozen other peopleā€ why did he have such a problem taking it back? And ā€œother people are dumber than youā€ is not a real convincing argument as to why you should accept an improperly represented item. I’m glad ebay ruled in your favor, it’s definitely buyer beware out there.

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@Ziacat oh no, I didn’t think you meant that at all. :blush: I also do not buy my more expensive pieces online, either. Just too much risk for important, high dollar pieces. The stuff I get online is older, less valuable stuff that I can either return or wouldn’t be a big loss if it wasn’t what it was pitched as. But I definitely won’t keep fake stuff….a different animal completely than it just wasn’t as wonderful as a seller’s guess of the age or mine. Most seller’s don’t know what they have and you expect that. :smiling_face_with_sunglasses:

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@OrbitOrange yes….he definitely had a problem if he was vacillating between telling me I was a nut (numerous times) and believing what I said, and then being upset that he got taken when HE bought it originally , and that I should just have to eat his ignorance because other people wouldn’t have known. I’m sure he was not happy, if he didn’t already know it!!….. to find out that it was not real, but a reputable person would have said okay, let me make it right because this could hurt my reputation as a seller. The people that I spoke to on the phone from eBay could see the messaging that he and I had, and said that between his abusiveness towards me and what he was trying to do, that he could very well be removed from selling. Good riddance, I say.

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@Xtina Hi Xtina, you had asked what I paid for the bracelet in the original post. I paid scrap price for it. I don’t recall exactly how much, but it was definitely under $200. A jeweler was going to scrap it. It makes me sick to think of what could be getting melted now that silver prices are so high.:cry:

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