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Hello all, I’ve had this watch band piece for many years and really can’t remember how I came to have it in my possession. Recently, I got a bit curious about it’s origins and wanted to know a little more about it. It looks to have a maker’s mark that resemble the numbers “77” or perhaps “LL”. Or I could also be completely off base! Any help would be helpful about origin, maker, and/or value both in terms of turquoise themselves or the whole piece. Thanks in advance!





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@esc104 It should be Lloyd Long.

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Wow, that was fast! Can’t thank you enough. :pray:

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Can you identify these rocks? They were sold to me as turquoise from a peruvian mine and I don’t think so…
3377
3378
3379

I appreciate any help you can give!
Marge

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Hi there from Northeast Oklahoma. I can’t believe I just now found this group. I have numerous pieces of turquoise joy and was just gifted a new ring for my college graduation.

I’m hoping someone can help me identify The maker or shop. I’ve spent hours scrolling hallmarks.

I know is that it was purchased about two weeks ago from a third generation jewelry Store in Oklahoma City and they had at some point gotten it from an estate sale. They have no further information.





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@Adrian The mark looks like that of Gilbert Andress Tyma!

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@Adrian Welcome & Congratulations on your graduation! I agree with @AC that it looks like the hallmark of Gilbert Andress Tyma (Hopi). The hallmark is listed in Bille Hougart’s 3rd edition of Navajo/SW silver hallmarks book. I believe your turquoise ring is in what’s known as a “Shadowbox” style.

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Thank you. That was an artist that I thought of but it seemed like all of the examples I could find had a curved C and not the angular C.

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So I checked my local libraries and of course no one near me has a copy of it. And I see where I was confused from another post in the same group. Somebody else had a similar marking and was finding a Navajo artist with a similar attribution. Now I’m seeing that it is time, he was not, he was Navajo style. As someone who’s Cherokee and works in all styles around me I completely understand that.
Can anyone point me to a biography about him or something. I’m really good at googling and I can’t find anything.

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@Adrian Here’s the info I copied out of Bille Hougart’s book that I referenced. I know it’s not much but, I don’t have any other info on Mr. Tyma.

ETA: The hallmark looks like a match to me but your ring isn’t overlay or what I consider traditional Hopi jewelry work. That’s not to say that artists have to always work in one manner. They may experiment with different techniques, methods, styles, etc.

I’m not sure where you live but none of my libraries nearby have Hallmark books that were using for those Native American jewelry. Sometimes you can find them used on eBay and different places. That first link is an online resource but it does have a few errors.
I drew a blank on finding a biography.

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I’m confused with this hallmark (I agree with Patina). This does not look like a Hopi piece. But maybe this is Hopi, and the artist works in a different style. When I have time I’ll Google the artist.

Welcome to Turquoise People, and congratulations on graduation! You received a beautiful gift.

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I did some googling, and I don’t believe Gilbert Tyma is the artist of this piece; he appears to work in typical Hopi overlay fashion, which is not what your ring is. Here is something Jason (the admin of the forum) said about him.

It is hard to find much about Gilbert Tyma online that doesn’t appear to be attributed to him wrongly (eBay and Etsy are pretty loose and free with their attributions).

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I’m looking to identify the artist and tribe for this sterling silver feather with turquoise. And what would this piece of art be used for? Thank you.


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@bwoods442 Hi ~ Welcome! I just did a Google search using the maker’s name on your feather. This is what came up. You may want to consider checking out this web site for information.

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Also, we can’t tell what it is without a picture of the whole thing. Welcome to Turquoise People!

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Didn’t mean to delete this post. In doing some research, I believe the artist is Jerome Poyner.

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Good day, I’m looking for some info on this ring. I purchase from a cool little vintage shop. I need to know what the symbols mean and the inscription on the back of the ring. Thanks



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This looks like it could be Navajo overlay, but Native American work does not usually use only the 925 mark without another hallmark, and not often even then. I can’t see what is next to the 925. It could be a shop mark maybe? You might try making this into a separate post, because people don’t always see stuff in this long thread.

Welcome to the forum!

Good day, thanks for the info. I was told it was Hopi by the seller, but I really don’t know his knowledge regarding native jewelry.

There is another inscription located in the inside N&cT, this is what I can make out from the small engraving.