“Navajo” rug

Here’s some interesting background on snakes in the Navajo tradition from XAI. I know from personal experience that most Navajos want nothing to do with them, but was never clear as to why, as my silversmiths didn’t really want to say much about it.

From Grok:

Navajo (Diné) traditional beliefs about snakes reflect a mix of respect, caution, and spiritual power. Snakes are viewed as potent beings linked to danger, lightning, and certain supernatural forces rather than as purely evil or benevolent creatures.3

Spiritual and Symbolic Associations

Snakes (called tł’iish in Navajo) are often associated with lightning and electrical energy. Some traditions describe them as earthly manifestations of lightning, which explains why snake symbols in Navajo art and sandpaintings frequently appear as crooked or zigzag shapes resembling lightning bolts.3 They appear in ceremonial sandpaintings and myths, but depictions are generally not portrayed positively—they carry warnings about improper contact with powerful forces.0

In clan histories, Big Snake (Tl’iistso) features as a protector and guide for the Tódích’íi’nii (Bitter Water Clan) during their emergence into the current world. He later chose to remain in the desert as an undisturbed guardian. Songs, prayers, and protective powers are linked to him, and ailments from snake contact can be addressed through specific ceremonies, sometimes called “Snake Way” (an alternative name for aspects of Beauty Way or Hoozhónee).5

Snakes are tied to the “Holy People” or supernaturals (diyin dine’é), including Snake People, and improper interactions (such as with lightning or arrows) are addressed in chants like Male Shooting Way.14

Common Taboos and Superstitions

Traditional Navajo teachings include numerous taboos meant to avoid inviting harm, illness, or misfortune. These stem from the idea that snakes carry dangerous spiritual energy, and disturbing or even observing them in certain ways can allow malevolent influences (sometimes described as ch’įįdii or evil spirits) to affect a person—effects that may appear immediately or years later.1

Key examples include:

  • Avoid touching or killing snakes — Touching one may allow an evil spirit to enter the body, eventually causing sores, aches, pains, or illness at the point of contact. Killing one (especially during rain) could bring lightning strikes to your home or other misfortune.0

  • Do not watch snakes eat, drink, mate, or shed their skin — This is strongly advised against, as it can lead to physical or mental health issues, such as digestive problems, throat/neck closing up, loss of voice, or other ailments. Even pictures or images of snakes eating are sometimes avoided for the same reason.0

  • Crossing a snake’s track — Should be done by shuffling feet to avoid leg aches.

  • Eating while a snake is watching — May cause your throat to close up later in life.

  • Other avoidances — Don’t pee while a snake watches (jealousy-related taboos), shoot at snakes (misses could hit something valuable), laugh at or make faces at them (they may bite later), or talk excessively about them (they might appear).4

These taboos reflect practical respect for venomous snakes (like rattlesnakes) in Navajo lands, combined with spiritual caution. The goal is often coexistence through distance rather than fear alone.3

Modern Reflections

These beliefs remain influential in traditional Navajo communities. In 2015, the Navajo Nation Zoo in Window Rock removed its live snake exhibit because many visitors avoided that area due to cultural taboos, which affected attendance at the rest of the zoo. Zoo signage still notes traditional knowledge about animals.0

Ceremonies exist to counteract negative effects from snake contact, performed by medicine people. Sandpaintings may include snakes in healing rituals, but always within a controlled, sacred context.

Beliefs can vary by individual, family, or level of traditional practice—many contemporary Navajo people blend these views with modern perspectives. Overall, snakes embody powerful natural and supernatural forces that demand respect to maintain harmony (hózhó).

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Thank you for the additional info on snakes and the Navajo.

We have visited Window Rock museum but never the zoo. The museum allows RVs to spend the night in their parking lot. We loved hearing the nocturnal animals especially the wolves!

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Update 3.31.26

Scott and I spoke with Tom Wheeler, owner of Hogback Trading , in Waterflow, near Shiprock. We had a wonderful 40 minute conversation about our two rugs, his 4th generation business and lots of other things.
One of the stories he told was how he and Bing Crosby, not the White Christmas one, of Crosby Collections, Park City, UT, used to travel together. This ties into where the original owner of the two rugs purchased them in 1996. Thank you @Ravenscry and @Steve for the excellent leads!
He believes there is a good chance the storm rug came from Hogback Trading, but is not sure he will be able to identify the people in the Polaroid.
He also was intrigued by the red snake rug and asked for photos of it too.
I will let you all know what I hear from him in the next day or so.
Thanks to everyone that has contributed and followed along on this adventure.

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Update 4.1.26

I just finished another 40 minute conversation with Tom Wheeler of Hogback Trading. He is very knowledgeable and so kind.

He said our large storm rug is from some time ago, as he turned over his rug supply quickly. It did come through Hogback Trading but he does not recognize the weaver or anyone in the photo. Tom said it would probably take nine months to weave this and believes it is handspun wool.

Bing Crosby, not the White Christmas one, and Tom would meet up at a show in May, IIRC. Tom would sell rugs to Bing and Bing would sell jewelry to Tom. This is how the rug ended up in Park City, UT and where the rug owner acquired it.

Now, for the snake rug. He is puzzled and said it maybe a Navajo rug from the 30s or 40s but he would not rule out an oriental rug. His thought is that it is a fine rug. He said that the antelope/goat is not unique to a Navajo rug. In the very few Navajo rugs he’s seen with snakes, they were rattlers and shown as dead. @mmrogers information follows Tom’s thought.

Tom suggested we take the rug to an oriental rug dealer to get their opinion. We have one locally and plan to take it tomorrow afternoon. So this adventure continues.

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This has been so neat to follow! Thank you for sharing all of the updates and all that you’ve learned.

@Ziacat first mentioned the birds in the background of the polaroid; did Tom happen to comment on that photo? If those birds are/were indeed painted on the wall, as Zia wondered, it would be really cool to see a matching photo of Hogback as it is today.

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I also just remembered that Hogback Trading Company is the place that has the rug with Mosi Yazzie on it, which is my kitty’s name :laughing: (it just means little cat)

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@Ziacat @Ravenscry I’m going to email him so I will ask about the birds in the back ground and will let you all know!

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Have known Tom for a long time, although we haven’t been in contact since the late 80s or early 90s. He really knows his stuff, and I would absolutely rely on his expertise. Bing was a friend and a longtime customer. A real character too! Looking forward learning what Tom has to say :slight_smile:

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We enjoyed talking to him so much that we told him to keep our phone number and if he ever got bored to please call us! Had we not made reservations for Glacier, Yellowstone, and Tetons for this fall, we would have made a special trip out just to meet Tom in person with both rugs in tow.

I think you and the older traders should write a journal or book so this history and knowledge is not lost! I’d also like to hear about the ones who’ve already passed on like Bing and the others.

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Oh, you will love that trip!! We’ve been to the Tetons a few times, because I had family out there years ago, but only got to Glacier once. And we couldn’t drive Going to the Sun Road, because due to more snowfall than normal it didn’t open till July 16th that summer, and we were there the week before. My nephew worked for a year or two at Many Glacier Lodge.

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I can’t remember if you have the Four Corners Trading Post Guidebook or not. It doesn’t go into deep detail, but covers a lot of trading posts that have unfortunately since closed (also helps me find the ones that are still open). And has lots of great pictures!

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I do have the Trading Post Guidebook! Thanks to your recommendation!!

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I agree, Mike. :grin:

@here4turquoise, I’m sure you watch them, but if not, Mark Sublette’s Art Dealer Diaries podcast is a gem. I enjoy watching them on YouTube when I can. Some of his dealer and gallery owner guests have been Ron Munn, Ray Dewey and Mark Winter, to name just a few. These (nowadays) “early day” traders have shared some absolutely priceless stories, and it’s so enjoyable to watch. Many of these guys have been trading since the 60’s and they share tales imparted to them from the old timers they knew when they were getting started. :+1:

If you prefer to take a super deep dive, you could check out The Indian Traders by Frank McNitt, published in 1962.

But only if you’re looking to read what is essentially a Master’s thesis on early Southwest trading. :laughing: It begins roughly in the 1850’s, then covers the decades after the Navajo return to their homeland from Bosque Redondo in 1868, and is filled out with the latter part of the 19th century and first quarter of the twentieth century. It provides a lot of context on men like John D. Lee, Thomas Keam, and old Dan DuBois moving to the Southwest before any settlers. The very beginning of trader/Indian relations is laid out and it shares perspective on men like Lorrenzo Hubbel of Ganado and John B. Moore, who publicized and pushed forward Navajo weaving, as I’m sure all here know. :+1:

One neat aspect of it is that it’s compiled from letters, interviews, and unpublished documents; which I found intriguing because it’s factual information, not someone’s opinion of what happened.

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Thank you @Ravenscry. I need to read more and buy less! I will look into the videos and books you have suggested.

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I get to feeling like that, especially when I look at my “to read” list…

:face_with_spiral_eyes:

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Me too. Especially when I have four Arizona Highway magazines sitting on the coffee table in front of me.

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Apologies if this is too off-topic but I bet some folks here might enjoy browsing Adopt A Native Elder’s rug selection. It’s an org that supports primarily elderly Diné women weavers in remote parts of the Navajo Nation, and the pricing on the rugs they list is direct – no middleman cut. I haven’t bought a rug via them yet, but it hasn’t stopped me from looking and drooling. :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes: The handspun and traditional plant-dyed ones are some of my favorites. And all the hummingbirds!

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I have heard about that, and believe it’s a good cause. One of ours that we bought at Teec Nos Pos Trading Post on the rez was made by an elderly Navajo woman. The trading post owner said that he likes to buy rugs from the Grandma’s even if they can’t weave quite as well anymore to support them, and because they are teaching the younger generation. So some of the trading posts are also great. I have seen that the prices on the rugs at some of the well established old trading posts are much better than buying them for example in Santa Fe or Sedona. But of course it takes an extra effort to get to those places. Thanks for the link!

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Thank you @nes for the link. I’m happy you’ve posted this! We all need to support our elders!

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I’m sorry for the delay in “snake” rug update. Yesterday, we found time to take it to Tribal Rugs. The owner has been the oriental rug business for generations.

His determination was the rug is kilim which can originate from Turkey, Iran/Persia or Afghanistan. He thought this one is high quality but not vintage/antique. It was handmade from Turkey and probably would have taken four months or more to weave with cotton and wool.

I appreciate everyone weighing in, from my forum friends, to Tom Wheeler at Hogback Trading Company and the local gentleman we spoke with yesterday. All are in agreement that it is not a Navajo rug. Thank you for taking this journey with me.

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