Real or really unreal?

[gt75]

Just visited my parents, and pulled out my old turquoise from their glass cabinet.

Bought this first one about 35 years ago as turquoise, it’s about 1" long. Was still a kid, so surely it was not hell expensive.

The second one I bought maybe 25-30 years ago as turquenite (I understand now that turquenite is dyed howlite), it’s a bit larger.

Now I wonder, is the first one also turquenite/howlite? As I have heard here often “no, don’t do this or that test”, should try the acetone test next?

Sorry, I really do not remember where I bought them, most likely at mineral fair. Also sorry for the bad photos, had to do them in a rush. Can take more during next visit if we need them.

[Bluegreen]

If i were in your shoes then i’d try the acetone test for sure.

[mmrogers]

Both look like dyed Howlite to me, @gt75. Would be interesting to slice one in half and photograph how deeply the dye reaches inside the interior of the material.

[gt75]

Thanks @mmrogers .
Would like to use the acetone test during next parent visit. Don’t want to slice up and risk ruining a real turquoise.

[mmrogers]

Agree. Best to proceed with caution. I understand the sentimental value as well.

[gt75]

Okay, the smaller one is turquenite, it has lost a lot of black & blue color when rubbing against ear buds with acetone.
The bigger one could be real turquoise, I could not get off any bit of color, but surely it could just be better dye that doesn’t come off using acetone.
The next should be the hot needle test, I guess.