Watchband

I have purchased this three weeks ago, price was $130.

  • Sterling silver, Navajo
  • Artist as by style maybe Scotty & Betty Platero
  • 2 turquoises (with tiny pyrite)
  • 87g





My questions to you experts

  • Authentic?
  • Rough value?
  • Keep or return?

In this case I have to decide now if I return it. Don’t like it much. And wearability nowadays is low.

Thanks a lot everyone.

I like the detailing on the sides of the band, very pretty. I’m a old school watch wearer, so I’m already not the best to ask a keep or sell question to.

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I agree, it’s well made and looks like the guy knew his job well. But I won’t wear it, and don’t see a reason to keep it. When I got it, my belief was that there is one big stone missing, so it could easily be extended to be a bracelet with three stones. But the existing stones are so low quality, worse than what I’d seen on the seller’s photos.

I am 99% sure to return it. Tell me if you are interested so I can tell you it where to get it. It’s Europe, so taxes will apply.

Car payment comes first, but thank you anyway :slightly_smiling_face:

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The silver work on the side is very nice… if you could find a nice stone for the middle, I think it could be a fine piece,

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I still like my previous idea:

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Sorry, I can’t quite understand. What do you refer to?

Instead of a watch for the center, modify it to take a US $10 Indian gold piece would look great.

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I like that idea. In this case I would also upgrade the poor stones. Medium blue with black spider web, for example from Egypt, Persia or Tibet.

And use an old circulation coin like Indian Head (most authentic , yes) or 20 Mexican Pesos.
1378-360
Surely not in mint state through :slight_smile:

Though, I have no experience in cutting, polishing, silversmithing etc., and believe no one over here is capable of doing this authentically.

It’s a well made bracelet. You got a steal on the price, and once again, it is not mid-century.

In fact, anytime you see a piece like this labeled as “mid-century” its a clear indication the seller has no idea what they’re talking about.

Like your recently acquired cluster work ‘ketoh’, which is made in a similar fashion with common distinguishing border, and detail elements, this style didn’t come around with this level of sophistication until the mid to late 70’s.

Once again, it’s a nice piece, and you did really well on it. However since you appear to be really serious about becoming a passionate collector, I should caution you not to take representations like “mid-century”, and “old pawn” at face value, and to be careful about repeating these terms to prospective vendors lest you give away a fundamental lack of practiced discernment which potentially identifies you as a ‘mark’ to unscrupulous sellers.

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Thanks Michael, great answers, as always. Really appreciated.

Yes, just I don’t know how to use it. Modifying it as fantasized above will be really expensive, and ruin its authenticity. I either keep it as is, and maybe someone to later modify it. Or return it. Still fighting with myself.

Yes, I guess so. Have completed reading “Turquoise the Gem of the Centuries” by Oscar T. Branson, and started reading “Turquoise unearthed - an illustrated guide” by Joe Dan & Joe P. Lowry. Also got both volume one and two of “Indian Jewelry Making” by Oscar T. Branson, and “Indian Silversmithing” by W. Ben Hunt. Enough to learn for starters. Also got “Fetishes And Carvings Of The Southwest” by Oscar T. Branson, that was more of a bycatch tough. Don’t ask where I got them here in Europe LOL.

I feel the turquoise aspect is attracting me more than the silversmithing aspect, but I like both a lot. And, as stated in an other post, I have purchased some beautiful turquoise lately, and will start two guessing games by mid October. I trust the seller, who is also the cutter and polisher, to know which mine he bought them from.

Maybe it’s best to remove the time frame statement from all my discussions. It’s obviously wrong, and leads to confusions.

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Found this one by coincidence, reading some discussions here:


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So, is my bracelet really Navajo? (Surely data on Facebook can be wrong, too …)

Without provenance, one can only legitimately describe the bracelet as “Navajo style”. The fact is many silversmiths, Native American and non-Native American (myself included) have worked in this style. The style itself is an adaptation of European style leaf, filigree, and scroll work elements originally produced for an enormous, primarily non-native marketplace during the “Indian Jewelry” boom of the 70s.

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